Tumbling Tulsa | The Hard Things

Hello and welcome to Tulsa tumbled talk with justice tumbling company, the one and only Tulsa tumbling show where we are Tulsa tumbling experts, answer the questions that we get from parents and athletes on a daily basis. We are your hosts, Coulton cruise and rusty breadth. Tumbling Tulsa we are the owners of justice tumbling company in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

All right, so if you’ve listened to our podcast, you know that we normally speak directly to tumblers themselves and their parents, but today we’re going to be talking to those but also to a high school coaches. Yes. And the importance of high school coaches because to this day I told them all agree with me. Stephanie Blackwell, who was our high school coach, she was like my second mother. I still talk to her to this day. Tumbling Tulsa, she shaped our lives for definitely the better, but if coaching is done incorrectly, it can definitely shape an athlete’s life in the wrong direction and set them up for failure. Now I’m black. Well, she was probably, I mean, hands down, one of the best at teachers slash coaches that I’ve, I’ve ever had. Um, and you know, that that was sometimes a rocky road. It was, it was sometimes hard to deal with because she was tough.

She was really tough on us and some of the stuff that she or our all star Code Shannon, I mean some of the stuff they coached us through, some of their coaching, they did. If they did nowadays, I’m probably wouldn’t get very far a lot of complaints from parents to the administration I’m sure. And that is exactly why we’re doing this podcast right here right now. We want to kind of give you some insight on what high school coaches have to deal with and the ups and downs of each type of high school coach and kind of how to, how to deal with it. And we’re not gonna throw any coaches under the bus. Throw any names in there other than black world just because we love her to. Yeah. Tumbling Tulsa. But we’ll just be going over. We’ve been doing this a very long time, so we’re going to be going over stuff we’ve seen in coaching.

If, whether it’s a school we work with are not just in our career and what we’ve seen, what works and what doesn’t. So right now currently there are some new coaches positions up for grabs and um, I know of three specifically right now where they’re looking for a new coach. And Tumbling Tulsa, I’ve been at approach. I’ve been happy. I’ve had parents come up to me. I know rusty’s been asked as well. We’re not interested in that. I would never do. We know what goes into it and we know how tough it is, but we love, we love what we’re doing right now. And regardless of any kind of coaching at the high school coaches doing a, I give a shout out to every high school coach because it is not an easy job. It’s a job I would never want to do the stuff they deal with on a daily basis for what they get paid.

It is unjust. Absolutely it is criminal. So want to give a shout out to every high school coach out there and that really is a perfect transition for our first point. Like Rusty said, Stephanie Blackwell was like a second mom to us and that’s what every high school cheer coach has to be ultimately is a second mom. You’re dealing with kids grades, you’re dealing with kids’ attitudes, you’re dealing with their personal situations and then you’re having to deal with their parents on top of that coaches and like you said, like parents have to discipline, they have to be hard on kids at times. But being hard on kids is not a negative thing if done correctly. Tumbling Tulsa, we’ve seen school programs, no matter how good the coaches, if they are, feel like they have to coach on eggshells almost because whether it’s, they’re in fear of the administration or God forbid parents, the parents should never be able to run a cheer program.

Parents should be there to love on their kids. Um, support their kids, motivate them through the good and bad times when parents get overly involved in the coaching. Uh, like we said, no matter how good the high school coaches, there’s not much they can do. They are limited on what they can really do for the athletes. And, you know, I’ve said it once and I’ll set it as say over and over again, it is not your school’s job to get you a coach that you want. It is their job as an administrator, as an athletic director, to provide you with a coach that you need and that coach, it might be tough, it might put your child or put you as the athlete through, Tumbling Tulsa, some difficult situations where you know, you’re uncomfortable or you, you’re, you know, you’re tired or whatever it might be.

But those are the coaches that win national championships and state championships. And that transfers into our second kind of coach, the coach who is very hard. They are like their mother. They, they aren’t scared to push them to their limits. They’re not afraid to get into the, the hard subjects with these kids. Um, but like is that the respect that I see these kids have for that, that coach that has that personality. It’s crazy. The amount of respect and the amount of stuff that you get done in their practices. But with that, you can’t be wishy washy. You can’t sometimes hold them accountable. Tumbling Tulsa then sometimes try to be their friend and kind of be inconsistent with your coaching. So that’s, that’s definitely important. Yeah, there’s a time to be hard. And then there’s a time to be that athletes friend, like there’s multiple ways you can coach. And so if you’re an athlete or you’re a parent who is seeing your coach

and saying this, this coach is just not a good fit. This, she does not belong here. He does not belong here. Remember that you as the parent, you know, your athlete. But this, this coach has to know and work with up to. I’ve, I’ve seen some coaches that work with 60 athletes with different, different programs and they, that’s their job. They’re, they’re good at what they do. So allow them, give them some grace and then, you know, if it, if it comes down to it, then it’s an administration, Tumbling Tulsa, it’s their position to change that. Not The parents are the athletes.

Absolutely. I’m like, Colton just said, some coaches deal with 60 athletes, some deal with only 20, but even just 20. That’s multiple sets of parents that are calling, texting, emailing every day. Tumbling Tulsa, the amount of stuff they have to deal with at home outside of practices is crazy. I mean the stress alone of just practices every day, especially when it comes to competition time and then setting up stuff for those competitions, all the stuff that goes into those long trips, but the emails that the stuff they do at home probably doesn’t get seen by the parents or athletes very much. That’s almost something that is taken for granted that these coaches don’t get rewarded for us. So we want to give those coaches, like we said, any coach, a big shout out for doing the job you’re doing

before NCA, we got the chance to sit through a conversation and listen to the coaches talking to, I think it was, I think it was about 60 or 70 athletes about the rules of whenever they’re traveling and whether staying in hotels and whatnot. These, these adults are in charge of all of those kids and I just can’t imagine the stress that they’re having to deal with and the rules that go involved. Like when were you cheered? None of those rules were in place. No, Tumbling Tulsa, but yeah, they’re in place for a reason and there to keep your children safe, you know, and sometimes the, the athlete may think that that’s overbearing, but you know, if you’ve ever been grounded, I’m sure that your athlete or you as the athlete thinks that that’s overbearing, that’s too much, but, but when you’re

going to these competitions, you are going there to compete and represent your school. It’s not a vacation, it’s not a party. Tumbling Tulsa, you’re going down there with a goal in mind. So coaches who keep their athletes eyes on that goal is

very, very important. Now we are moving to our next type of coach,

like Colton said, coaches who maybe don’t have the experience for that head coaching position. You can see when there is that kind of coaching athletes kind of lose motivation, Tumbling Tulsa, it might change the entire chair person,

but that’s not to say that it’s a parent or an athlete’s job to get that coach fired or to completely ruin that person’s life just because you’re in disagreements with them. The whole point of growing up and going through high school is to find that you’re gonna, you’re gonna meet people and you’re going to have to work with people that you don’t always agree with. Um, just the other day, rusty and I had a huge fight and it was all, it was all because of the business and the direction that we’re going. Tumbling Tulsa, but it’s important for us to know that we, we’re, we still have a bigger goal in mind. Our goal is to win. Our goal is to be the best that we can be. And if we are at odds, then we’re not going to happen. A house divided will not stand.

Absolutely. The coach’s knowledge is it’s a hard job. It is a hard job. So there is training that they can go to, there’s research they can look into. Some coaches just might not have that knowledge.

You know, there are coaches who are easy to communicate with. They’re just the nicest people. But whenever it comes to coaching, they might be lacking in some experience. And that’s okay because they’re getting experience while they’re there. But there are times where we have to kind of help and initiate certain things, like there’s a, there’s a, a school that we work with that, um, the only time they actually tumble is when and where they’re working with them tumbling. And so that coach specifically has asked us to do like a coach’s clinic to teach them what to look for, maybe not necessarily spotting, but what to look for whenever they’re looking at tumbling and how to critique just by watching. And so that’s a perfect example of a coach that, you know, may not have the experience that everybody wishes she had, but she’s trying, she’s working towards that. And then you’ll have coaches that think they have the experience but don’t and, and are really just dragging the entire program down. Tumbling Tulsa, and the program will suffer because of it and it, it’s gonna show.

So like we said, we just want to reiterate, um, we are not doing this podcast a bash on any coach at all because coaching is one of the hardest jobs there is. You’re dealing with middle school age to high school athletes, athletes that are getting ready for college. Lots of them at one time. Yes. Boys and sometimes girls and it is a very, very tough job. So we applaud every coach out there. It is. I would never want to be in their shoes. We love what we’re doing, but it’s important for the high school coaches to love what they’re doing as well because it’ll show in their coaching.

Absolutely. And you know, we, they’re like Chrissy said, we’re not here, we’re not making this podcast to bash anyone. Um, but we are here to support every coach that’s out there. If, if you are in a high school coach or you want your coach to kind of get in touch with us, we are an advocate, Tumbling Tulsa, for anything and everything, cheer related, we can help in any way, shape or form that we can. Whether that’s tumbling, whether that stunting, whether that’s, you just want us to come in once a week to just kinda take the team off your hands and work drills and, and prepare them for whatever might be coming up next. I know stunt is coming up, a sport of stunt, but we, uh, we want athletes, we want parents to give high school coaches and break because they have a lot on their plate.

Tumbling Tulsa, and I’d say 90 percent of them are working a second job as well, so they’re, they’re busy and they’re trying to keep your, your athlete happy while keeping everybody else happy. So if you are interested in finding out more about us and wanting us to get in your school and your program and helping you guys out, we would love that. You can check out our website@justicetumblingcode.com, or you can find us on facebook and instagram and if you have a google account, we would love it if you left us an objective at Google review to let us know how we’re doing.

We’ll see you next time on Tulsa tumble. Todd Justus tumbling.